- Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:50 am
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Could I convert my Motion Trendz Yamaha Raptor? I has a 1st, 2nd and reverse gear.
Shambosley wrote:I have a PW Dune Racer and I upgraded battery to 18v. I dont want to shred the gears as fast or burn up anything, nor am I thechinaly inclined to setup a full esc system, which I beleove I have all the stuff dor in the future maybe, so im really looking to make this idea you've posted work but as I said before I have no idea about electrical, but there's never a better time to learn than now. Can you tell me if this setup is easily possible with my power wheel.It will work just fine on your dune racer. However, it's about the same amount of work as a full ESC. If your budget can handle an ESC from eastcoastpowerup, I highly recommend it over any other mod.
P.s. I know this post is 2 years old but I sure hope someone will see my "cry for help/guidance"
Rob222 wrote:Does the fwd/rev relay click when you move the shifter to rev ?
If not your wiring problem is in the shifter to relay coil wiring.
If the relay clicks but the motors do not change direction the problem is in the relay contact wiring to the motors.
lexx0116 wrote:Is this alternative similar to CJB Turbo Timer 4 board concept where it will soft start at lower voltage for 2 seconds and then boost up full force?CJB's Turbo Timer gives the parent control over the ride, what percentage of time it will be allowed to run full blast. This setup simply provides a two stage throttle. It's up the the child to push the pedal softly to start and then roll into full speed when appropriate.
toycrusher wrote:Do you have a wiring diagram for Dune Racer? I have the 40A circuit breaker here. The gas pedal I guess it will be replaced by the new throttle pedal correct? I am unsure about the shifter wiring at the moment for this setup.lexx0116 wrote:Is this alternative similar to CJB Turbo Timer 4 board concept where it will soft start at lower voltage for 2 seconds and then boost up full force?CJB's Turbo Timer gives the parent control over the ride, what percentage of time it will be allowed to run full blast. This setup simply provides a two stage throttle. It's up the the child to push the pedal softly to start and then roll into full speed when appropriate.
lexx0116 wrote:I've never owned a Dune Racer so can't say for sure, but most older PW rides are fairly standard. Power goes from battery to pedal, from pedal to twin DPDT switches in the shifter, and out to the motors. The relays replace the DPDT switch for Hi/low to make it automatic based on pedal position.toycrusher wrote:Do you have a wiring diagram for Dune Racer? I have the 40A circuit breaker here. The gas pedal I guess it will be replaced by the new throttle pedal correct? I am unsure about the shifter wiring at the moment for this setup.lexx0116 wrote:Is this alternative similar to CJB Turbo Timer 4 board concept where it will soft start at lower voltage for 2 seconds and then boost up full force?CJB's Turbo Timer gives the parent control over the ride, what percentage of time it will be allowed to run full blast. This setup simply provides a two stage throttle. It's up the the child to push the pedal softly to start and then roll into full speed when appropriate.
toycrusher wrote:This should help. The relay now looks like it's real-life counterpartJust got the parts and want to try this method of ESC out on my Dune Racer. I just want to make sure that the blue wire is ground and red wire is positive from the battery connector correct? I normally have the fuse/circuit breaker connects to the positive so just want to make sure that for this diagram, the thermal sensor is connected with the ground wire instead of positive or the opposite? Also the 2 black wires going to the bottom 2 connectors of the pedal are both ground and does it matter which lead it needs to connect to or it doesn't matter for these 2.![]()
lexx0116 wrote:To answer your question... yes, yes, and yes...toycrusher wrote:This should help. The relay now looks like it's real-life counterpartJust got the parts and want to try this method of ESC out on my Dune Racer. I just want to make sure that the blue wire is ground and red wire is positive from the battery connector correct? I normally have the fuse/circuit breaker connects to the positive so just want to make sure that for this diagram, the thermal sensor is connected with the ground wire instead of positive or the opposite? Also the 2 black wires going to the bottom 2 connectors of the pedal are both ground and does it matter which lead it needs to connect to or it doesn't matter for these 2.![]()
Thanks
lexx0116 wrote:In that case then I can retire the long wire connect to the pedal and replace it with the actual wire harness. And I assume if the black and red line from the picture where not labeled will be blackYes, your existing wire colors aren't really that important as long as power flows like it does in the diagram.
and red relatively then? One of the motor you have blue with red line and red with black lines so I assume the color don't matter there as long as the labels are right? and connect to the right ground/positive for the motor connection then?
lexx0116 wrote:So I got the setup working. One question is the reverse speed, it behaves like forward meaning that the harder you push on the pedal the faster reverse will go. Is this an expected behavior?Yes, it's not a very "smart" system.
lexx0116 wrote:@toycrushersYes in the heavy ground wire connected to the switch pedal
Is there a way to put a break reduction module in to reduce the hard stop when releasing the pedal? I have mine install right now using stock wire but not sure if it's possible on this one.