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Swapping wheels? Adding suspension? Adding traction mods? This is the place for anything between the body and the ground!
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By taz11
#65616
Not trying to tease..... but I may have just stumbled on a direct replacement tire for lifted Jeeps and Silverados!

I was too exicited to keep it to myself!


I'm not letting it out yet in case there are issues...but the measurements are looking good!

Racing tonight, but I will try to confirm this over the weekend!

UPDATE! IT WORKS! Not 100% like I had hoped....but good enough. I used four R8126 Brute Force rear tires

Parts required....
2- M7873-2769 right rear tire
2- M7873-2779 left rear tire
4- B9785-2459 hubcap (Update as of January 2013, discontinued) :evil:
2-B9785-2229 bushing


Attaching.......
4- 7/16 shaft collars or........4- 74550-2689 bushings and 16-7/16 washers (4 per wheel), 4 cap nuts.



The tires fit great..... I had hoped to use a single hex bushing and a cap nut for installation. The hex bushings turned out to be about 1/8 inch too long :evil: :evil:

Best bet would be to grind them down 1/8"....but if you don't have the tools.... one standard jeep wheel bushing and 4 washers will work also. It just doesn't look as clean.

lift kit 006.jpg
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Front inner bushing (2)
lift kit 005.jpg



Attachment
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Comparison
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Last edited by taz11 on Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:42 am, edited 2 times in total.
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By taz11
#65625
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I know..... but I had this stack of worn out tires.....it was right next to a stack of worn out lifted jeep tires.

If I walked past it once, I walked past it 100 times. Then today I'm looking at the two stacks (trying to figure out what to do with them) and ..WHAM....it hits me DUH!!!!!! They are the same dang size....and you can still buy them! :D


I just need to confirm that the monster traction knobbies don't rub the body anywhere. Once its confirmed I'll post part numbers and pics.
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By taz11
#65632
Wow..thats nice. I dont think that is lifted though.......smaller wheels. The same idea and basic look.

And I dont have chrome caps :cry:


Those look like KFX wheels.
Last edited by taz11 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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By taz11
#65638
h-bomb wrote:After I posted it I realized it wasn't lifted. Looks good though -- are KFX wheels still available?



Yes they are. I think you can get the caps in grey, white, and chrome. Might be something for me to look into also...part numbers and fitment specifics for those on standard jeeps.
#65695
im lifting a silverado 2 inches and am gonnaneed some tires so this sounds very intersting!
By TewSmooth18
#66318
Looks like you got to this before me Taz. I was playing around with the brute force tires that I ordered as well, and looked to see if they would fit on my Jeep Enforcer and noticed that they would. I just never took pictures of it yet as the brute force wheels that I ordered were for another ride on.

My main purpose that I tried it out was because I wanted to give the jeep a more "aggressive offroad" look to it.

Oh, and another option to prevent from having to use all the washer and all that due to the axle shaft being longer then what is actually needed, would be to just use a hack saw and cut down the axle shafts. That's what I did on my Eliminator to prevent from having to use hex bushings
Last edited by TewSmooth18 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:51 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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By taz11
#66360
I would hack them off too. I figured I'd post an alternitive for those that don't have access to "hacking" type tools. :D

I installed these in 15 minutes with plyers and a ball peen hammer ;) .......then I took them back off for my lift kit topic ;)
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By taz11
#69246
14 1/2 -15 inches.


If your jeep is not lifted you can use the KFX tires pictured earlier in this topic.
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By daveweber34
#69251
Thanks Taz. By chance, do you know what the KFX tire diameter is? I'm just trying to get a sense of how this is going to change my Jeep's speed since it has the 11" wheels. I had to do the front end sag fix on it and the front tire were trashed. The inner tread is worn through and every lug on the tire has holes in it.
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By taz11
#89538
It appears that the hubcaps listed above have been discontinued or run out of stock. BUMMER :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


I'm working on 2 other options I think you guys may like.
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By taz11
#89659
This pic shows the wheels on a jeep with my 4" lift kit. They fit on a factory lifted jeep also.

12v F150 wheel set , 4 hex bushings, and 4 shaft collars =

parts 005.jpg



2- K8285-2039 Right Wheel
2- K8285-2239 Left Wheel
2- L6348-6179 Rear Rim
2- L6348-6249 Front Rim
2- K8285-2429 Inner Front Rim
2- K8285-2279 Driver
4- 73233-2559 Hex Bushing


Front...... install as normal, using a shaft collar (or trim axle and use a pushnut)

Rear...... Install one hex bushing into the rear hubcap from the outside. Install one hex bushing into the wheel driver from the center of the wheel (it will not fit from the outside). When the wheel is assembled the inner bushing should be trapped between the wheel halves. Install the wheel with a shaft collar or cut the axle and use a pushnut.


Note... if you are using this set up with a newer style jeep that has the shorter axles (jammin jeep etc), these will fit without axle modification. Just add pushnut :D (still need atleast 2" lift) They actually fit a standard jeep if you trim the bumper tips ;)
Last edited by taz11 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:45 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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By taz11
#92058
Here are a few more options for the discontinued hubcaps......

M7873 wheels will work with the stock 5 star jeep hubcap!
parts2 002.jpg

LIKE A GLOVE! I think this would be cool if the inside rim of the tire was painted to match the hubcap. This actually fits down inside the tire.


The newer six spoke jeep hubcaps also work!
parts2 001.jpg

....but its real close on the push nut! If you have an axle on the short side of the tolerance it may give you issues. (you could always trim the steering knuckle just a bit)



(will not work on new style short axle jeeps)
Last edited by taz11 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:56 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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By taz11
#93865
Prokectelmo wrote:Retracted statement due to false hopes.


I hate when that happens
By iowassfan
#95803
taz11 wrote:Here are a few more options for the discontinued hubcaps......

M7873 wheels will work with the stock 5 star jeep hubcap!
parts2 002.jpg

LIKE A GLOVE! I think this would be cool if the inside rim of the tire was painted to match the hubcap. This actually fits down inside the tire.


The newer six spoke jeep hubcaps also work!
parts2 001.jpg

....but its real close on the push nut! If you have an axle on the short side of the tolerance it may give you issues. (you could always trim the steering knuckle just a bit)



(will not work on new style short axle jeeps)


I like the look of these wheels! Plus, looks like hobby masters has them. I got a jeep with the newer white six spoke style hubcaps. Bought a 2" lift from you and am looking at adding bigger tires now. How do I know if I have the short axle style that these will not work on? If it is the shorter style what wheels do you recommend/will work? Thanks!
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By taz11
#95815
If you originally had the six spoke wheels, you have the short axles. The F150 wheels above are a direct fit.

If you just have to have the wider wheels.....
You can make a longer rear axle out of 7/16 or 11mm steel rod from a hardware/improvement store. I may have some longer axles for the front. If you have access to a torch, you can make them too.
By iowassfan
#95836
Wider wheels look good! These wheels are 14" tall? Now that you mention it, I believe the lifted module I got from you had the longer axles. I seem to remember swapping over my stock ones to use my stock wheels. I really like these wheels since they can still be bought new as well and fit the six spoke hubcaps. Making a longer rear axle doesnt sound to hard. New axle and wheels would be all I would need then?
Last edited by iowassfan on Thu May 02, 2013 10:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
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By taz11
#95839
Wheels and 2 front inner bushings.


Using the 6 spoke hubcaps it MAY be necessary to trim or file the plastic steering knuckle a small bit if there is not enough room for the push nut on the axle.


It's close.
By Prokectelmo
#95860
I have 2 brand new hub caps B9785-2459 for sale $15 shipped

Also using 7/16 shaft collars makes it so much easier. Ended up using 4, 7/16 washer & bushing on the inside front and 2, 7/16 washers outside front wheel to help with locking the collar.

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By Triple D
#112061
Sorry for such a noob post. Starting my first modded PW for my son. Which 14" wheels are the best to use on a lifted jeep that I can get new? Looking for black wheels that are wide. Thanks.
By iowassfan
#117544
Thanks for the parts and knowledge Taz. Used the 7873 wheels. Front axles were not long enough so I cut up the stock rear axle and bent some longer ones for the front from it.
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By WyldRyd
#144425
taz11 wrote:Here are a few more options for the discontinued hubcaps......

M7873 wheels will work with the stock 5 star jeep hubcap!
parts2 002.jpg

LIKE A GLOVE! I think this would be cool if the inside rim of the tire was painted to match the hubcap. This actually fits down inside the tire.


The newer six spoke jeep hubcaps also work!
parts2 001.jpg

....but its real close on the push nut! If you have an axle on the short side of the tolerance it may give you issues. (you could always trim the steering knuckle just a bit)



(will not work on new style short axle jeeps)


taz11,

Can you confirm for me that if I am going to upgrade to the M7873 wheels and use my original hubcaps that this should be all the I need? I am most concerned that I have the correct Wheel bushing based on the tires, as I am trying to learn as much as I can on here... but last night I started reading and researching wheel setups and said to myself an hour or 2 max and then time for bed... well 6 hours later I was still going strong and ran out of iPad battery so luckily I finally went to bed. So after all my reading this seems correct but was really hoping for a thumbs up from you first so I know I didn't make a mistake. I will be putting them on a B2489-9993 Barbie Beach Ranger Restage. I currently have the 13.5 inch discontinued wheels but I am converting to black wheels... From what I can tell and learned again from reading this is a factory lifted Jeep yes? :?: :?: :?:

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